User talk:Doomhiker

Welcome aboard, Doomhiker Results May Vary (talk) 13:23, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Just to be sure we do't skip anything, let's start from the first couple games before getting to the later ones. Since earlier games usually have less content anyway, it'll also be easier that way too. Granted, the original Four Swords has less stuff in it than....pretty much any other Zelda game.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:00, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed

 * Just letting you know that I set autoconfirmed rank as a security measure against possible vandals. I disabled it for the moment so that you can have the ability to create pages & such, but I will reenable it by tomorrow, when you've had an account for at least one day (the criteria is 1 day + 5 edits for every user, same as on WiKirby). Results May Vary (talk) 17:35, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Re: I am Error
Yeah well there's a lot of information i put into the article (based on Wikipedia version but with a rewrite), regarding notable outlets and official acknowledgements from Nintendo. I actually imagined summarizing "I am Error" on the list of zelda internet referencesand linking to the main article from there. Since the article is pretty long, how would we go about truncating it for such an article (and what information would stay and which would be removed)? Results May Vary (talk) 00:20, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I moved Model A to the "List of The Legend of Zelda references on the Internet" article Results May Vary (talk) 01:29, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Re:TLOZ board game
Oh. Well it should probably be moved to Milton Bradley, because there is also a Japanese Bandai-made board game, and I think listing the creators would be better than having a "board game" identifier for both "The Legend of Zelda" and "Zelda no Densetsu." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:14, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Identifiers should be used to lessen confusion in each individual situation. If the potential point of confusion is the company, that needs to be the identifier. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:22, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Re:Bubble/Fire Faeries
Because they're called Bubbles in Japanese, hence the Shudan Bubble. As for the English name, it's from the NP guide. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:15, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Ask LTL, the only game-specific non-instruction-manual guide I physically own is the TFH one. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:20, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The Bubble is named "Fire Faerie" on page 110 of the A Link to the Past Nintendo Power guide, "Anti-Faerie" at least on page 101 of the Link's Awakening Nintendo Power guide (the guide still refers to fairies as Faeries) and on page 33 of the The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons/Ages Nintendo Power guide (despite referring to regular fairies as fairies), and "Anti-Fairy" on page 48 of the A Link to the Past/Four Swords Nintendo Power guide. As for whether or not they are really Bubbles, they are 「バブル」(Baburu, Bubble) and 「集団バブル」(Shūdan Baburu, "Mass Bubble") on page 134 of the first part of the Kamigami no Triforce Shogakukan guide. LTL (talk) 13:03, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Shogakukan often used to sell their guides in two parts - the first half is called the "Jou" (first) volume and the second half is called the "Ge" (last) volume - but this practice got phased out. I made sure to specify it's the first volume's enemy data that's referenced. I also added a citation to the NES game's manual just for additional point of reference. Also, just a note: despite the Nintendo Power guides being called the "Nintendo Player's Guide" series, the actual full title of the guide would almost always drop the "Nintendo" part, which can be seen in places like within the guide or on the back. LTL (talk) 13:45, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Whole titles in the middle of body paragraphs
Really, please stop that until more consensus is reached. When the unique part of the title is just the subtitle, referring to each game by the whole overly-long title every single time just bloats things up unnecessarily and reads really awkwardly. We are not copying MarioWiki's rules wholesale, just the ones that really can realistically apply to this franchise. Which is most, but not all. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:53, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * That's not what I mean, I mean like Link's Awakening. Adding the full TLoZ to the front is just awkward and takes up unnecessary space. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:28, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * A part of the title shared with every other game in the series (barring the one that's an underrated classic). It's really just clunky and unnecessary, especially when we're mentioning the even-longer-titled ports/remakes in the same section. The GBA ALttP is where I ultimately draw the line with that. There is no reason to mention its whole title twice in the same sentence. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:34, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Link's Awakening Prima Guide
Hey, I see that you reference the Prima guide for Link's Awakening DX. I have a couple of questions.

1) In that edit, did you accidentally swap the original and DX profiles? I can't find info on a Prima guide for the original, and the DX quote matches the original Player's Guide.

2) Is the final boss referred to as DethI or Death Eye in the Prima guide?

3) Are there other possible name changes, besides Cheep-Cheep, you can comb through?

Thanks in advance. LTL (talk) 01:58, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I have the Link's Awakening DX guide, but it's late so I will have to check tomorrow. Results May Vary (talk) 05:52, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh neat. I'm also curious, now that I think about it, if BowWow is referred to as a Chain Chomp, which isn't the case in the original guide (he and CiaoCiao are just pups). LTL (talk) 22:59, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh hadn't known they are referred to "pups" in the Nintendo Player's guide. This is a good question you ask because I've been wondering if BowWow is part of the Chain Chomp species, which we've all been having some discussion on lately.
 * From the guide, I see that BowWow is named "Bow Wow", which makes this Chain Chomp naming thing even more confusing. As for CiaoCiao, she is called a "pup" in the page for the trading sequence. Basically Bow Wow is used as the name of the character, not species, in the book. I couldn't see any reference to the name Chain Chomp in the parts of the guide where Bow Wow is saved from the hideout & taken to eat the Goronpora Flowers at the swamp. Results May Vary (talk) 20:24, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, but I don't own the guide so I can't help with names. The reason why I got the descriptions is because RMV sent me a screenshot of the guide on Discord, and the guide was for the DX version of the game, I made a mistake. The player's guide is from the original game. Doomhiker (talk) 19:12, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Re:Big Keeses
Sure, it's called as such in the Futabasha and Keibunsha guides under Grim Creeper, which is known as 「ピッコロ使 い」 (Pikkoro Tsukai, Piccolo User/Charmer). LTL (talk) 01:20, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. I just went with citing the earlier source for the article, which according to this site is the Keibunsha guide. Anyway, if you want to classify it as a relative instead of a variant then I think "Battle Bat" is the better name for it. LTL (talk) 02:08, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can use the same reference to cite Grim Creeper's Japanese name. By the way, I just realized: couldn't you consider the bats that Vire splits into in the same game to be "big Keese"? LTL (talk) 02:55, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The bats that Vire splits into are identified as Keese in the original NES game's manual, but use a different, slightly larger design in the Game Boy games. Also, is Keese / Big Keese pluralized as "Keeses" in the Prima guide? Other sources seem to use "Keese" as plural. LTL (talk) 03:18, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * What I mean is, if there is a separate big variety of Keese in the same game, wouldn't that somewhat be in conflict with the name "Big Keese" (in addition to them not really intended to be Keese)? It just seems to be a misnomer. I'll ask RMV about the plural in the guide. LTL (talk) 03:59, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

"Speculation"
There is a difference between speculation and inference. "Speculation" typically has no ground in logic or sense with anything actually presented, "inference" is filling in logical gaps that are intentionally left out so it's not holding the player's hand. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:11, 31 December 2019 (UTC)