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I have found the alleged "seikizō" pun is [https://youtu.be/jZ4rsCrdykA?t=364 nonexistent, it's just sekizō]. With this in mind, should we simply merge the decorative "Rocklops statue" and perhaps the fire-shooting "Eye Guard" to it? In FS, some of them are decorative and used as arrow switches, much like specific ones in ALttP and LA. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:12, 31 December 2020 (MST)
I have found the alleged "seikizō" pun is [https://youtu.be/jZ4rsCrdykA?t=364 nonexistent, it's just sekizō]. With this in mind, should we simply merge the decorative "Rocklops statue" and perhaps the fire-shooting "Eye Guard" to it? In FS, some of them are decorative and used as arrow switches, much like specific ones in ALttP and LA. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:12, 31 December 2020 (MST)
So in that guide, is "Sekizo" solely used for the inanimate ones? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:09, May 29, 2021 (MDT)


== Re:Fire Bago-Bago ==
== Re:Fire Bago-Bago ==
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So a long time ago I noticed that Shrouded Stalfos's Japanese name is Dokuro Knight. Is there any reference in Japanese materials stating it's an actual Stalfos? I recall the Bottle Grotto hint added "skeletal" to the English script in the remake... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:35, 20 October 2020 (MDT)
So a long time ago I noticed that Shrouded Stalfos's Japanese name is Dokuro Knight. Is there any reference in Japanese materials stating it's an actual Stalfos? I recall the Bottle Grotto hint added "skeletal" to the English script in the remake... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:35, 20 October 2020 (MDT)
:Hmm, curious....there's still the Bottle Grotto hint to look into, though. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:59, 8 December 2020 (MST)
:Hmm, curious....there's still the Bottle Grotto hint to look into, though. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:59, 8 December 2020 (MST)
::I personally think that unless the Dreamer Art Book says otherwise, "Shrouded Stalfos" is still fine, since even with the differing adjective, it could still simply be a generic reference. Anyways, shall we consider "Stalrobe" enough to treat them as a true Stalfos variant? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:22, March 10, 2021 (MST)
:::Quite interesting! I'd consider the unused compendium thing to be a high-priority source (similar to ''Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric'' with its dummied out list of [https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Destruction_Troops Destruction Troop] names, since the feature was likely a last-minute cut). I also find it interesting that the model file names properly "translate" "skull"/"dokuro" to "stal" unlike the given name. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:13, March 19, 2021 (MDT)


== Keeleon ==
== Keeleon ==
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Do you have any thoughts on whether the "Armos Warrior" from ''Oracle of Ages'' is an actual Armos? It bears a faint resemblance to Armos Knights, but its JP name is apparently "Mujūn," which makes me think of "Mujura" more than anything. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:33, 2 January 2021 (MST)
Do you have any thoughts on whether the "Armos Warrior" from ''Oracle of Ages'' is an actual Armos? It bears a faint resemblance to Armos Knights, but its JP name is apparently "Mujūn," which makes me think of "Mujura" more than anything. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:33, 2 January 2021 (MST)
== Belligerent torch ==
So what do you think about naming for the obstacle torch that acts like the Stone Statues from the first game? Through our source priority, I think "Face Lamp" is the highest, but since the name is only relevant to LA I was wondering if we should use an alternative. The FS PRIMA guide uses "Blazing Watch Tower" which is more broad, and we could alternatively have "torch (obstacle)" (or a full merge to "torch (object)"). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:13, 14 January 2021 (MST)
== Re:gional English ==
I knew about that, but I think it'd be best to keep as-is. Spirit Tracks has a ''lot'' of differences, and ''Historia'' only uses the American ones. As for the robos, the last letter in the model number is supposed to match up with the first letter of the designation, which the Commonwealth English translations apparently did not pick up on and just used the JP ones. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:41, February 15, 2021 (MST)
== sorry if there are hiccups in connection ==
Sorry, this sometimes happens (I'm still saving up for dedicated hosting plan because currently on shared). In such cases, I recommend you copy your work before publishing so that you don't lose it. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 11:07, March 4, 2021 (MST)
== Boots in CoH ==
Footwear at least is fairly common as the same type of upgrade as torches, rings, and breakable weapons. There were Hover Boots, Iron Boots, Glass Slippers, some springy shoes, and a few other things. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:52, March 4, 2021 (MST)
:I don't really feel there's much reason to split the weapon types for that game more than any other. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:22, March 10, 2021 (MST)
::I'd prefer to keep the most recent name regardless, though I see your point with the swords. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:29, March 14, 2021 (MDT)
== On the subject of Young Link ==
I have indeed noticed several publications for OoT (notably A&A) use "Young Link" or "Child Link" for the younger one and simply "Link" for the older one, which may stem from early development from before there was going to be a "younger" one. (Also thanks for taking care of the Flying Rooster thing, I kept meaning to and then forgetting about it.) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:17, March 10, 2021 (MST)
== Re: Loader ==
Was NP an actual full-time subdivision of NoA? Anyways, I figured it was coincidence particularly since he seems to have confused its manual description with Myu's. The Loader thing I suppose is possible. I assume "Auroda" was on your end? (Also nice job with all the item page today!) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:29, March 14, 2021 (MDT)
:Seems trivia-worthy I suppose, as long as the flaws are pointed out (ZW takes the accusation at face-value). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:13, March 19, 2021 (MDT)
== Re: Stard of Agony ==
Those are good points, though it seems the names differ in both English and Japanese, and the tuning fork design and sound differ enough to consider it a full replacement, a la Bounder and Gip from Kirby. They could have still used a rumbly noise, after all. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:13, March 19, 2021 (MDT)
== Re: LA Glossary ==
:I'd seen the chart, yes, loved. "K.K. Sniper." "Mini Zol" also confused me a bit, and I noticed several of those other oddities (EnemyGibdos, EnemyStoneHinox, EnemySoldier, Bomb Trooper, Lanmola)...anyways, the only one I'm unsure of what to do with is the aforementioned Mini Zol, since "Gel" has been used in-game in Cadence. I'm thinking we can give these strings a special level of priority between in-game and from-guide, because in this case, we at least know that people who were actually in development and/or localization created these names and most likely intended for them to be seen by players at some point in development. (Also I have no idea what the deal with "KoopaStuff" is...<small>I'll get back to you on the Hylian and capitalization things after I think about them a bit.</small>) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:43, March 22, 2021 (MDT)
== Hero's Key ==
As far as I can tell in FS itself, "Hero's Key" specifically refers to the level 3-type of key; the manual simply says "the three keys" as an umbrella term for the section header. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:21, 26 March 2021 (MDT)
== Hylians and other "precursor" civilizations ==
So, after thinking through it, I believe "Hylian" should refer to specifically the civilization descended from the Goddess Hylia's reincarnation, as that seems to be what it is used for (or at least initially). I cannot remember if ALBW mentions them in any capacity, however. On that subject, there are also the Mudora, Zonai, and other such civilizations that are only really present through relics, how should they be covered? Under 'implied characters?' [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:03, 27 March 2021 (MDT)
== Demon Tribe ==
So someone in the Discord brought up how many instances of "Demon Tribe" in the Japanese script of various games are omitted from the localized versions. I know Agahnim called it the "tribe of evil" when taunting Link and "Demon Tribe" is used to describe Ghirahim's swords in ''Hyrule Warriors'', but is there any notable other instances of it in Japan I should know about, and if so, does it connect to how enemies like Mo[l]blin and Goriya were initially described as "devils" and how Ganon's minions were said to be from the underworld? I figured a demon article wouldn't be a bad idea, but we'd need all the concrete info we can get. Of course, in ''Spirit Tracks'' and ''Skyward Sword'' they effectively drive the plot with all the "Demon King"/"Demon Lord" type of stuff, particularly in the respective backstory where a war against them culminated in the Demon King being imprisoned, but I digress. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:12, March 30, 2021 (MDT)
== RE: Say... ==
I don't know anything about the series at all sadly, and I'm already trying to carefully use the resources that I have with hosting (I'm still waiting for when I can afford upgraded hosting so that the connection to Triforce Wiki is more reliable). I'm not saying no, I'm just saying that maybe wait as a future possibility. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 10:07, April 2, 2021 (MDT)
== Zelda's Adventure (in the Netherlands) ==
So, inspired by your LA list, I went through scans of the Dutch official CD-i magazine and compiled a [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick#Zelda.27s Adventure: The Legend of the Celestial Signs enemies|list of enemy names]] from it, and aside from a single miniboss is absolutely comprehensive in that regard (having an assortment of names not even ZeldaWiki has). However, some enemies are referred to in generic, lowercase (and Dutch) terms, like "reuzeninktvis" and "schildpadden" for a giant squid and sea turtle enemy, respectively. What do you think should be done regarding those? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:38, April 8, 2021 (MDT)
== Stalfaux ==
So a number of skeletal characters I am unsure of whether to consider Stalfos or not. These include the giant bosses Stallord and Skeldritch (who at least have association, but do not seem to have sapience...or feet), a reaper-like boss in a Gibdo-infested tomb in ''Zelda's Adventure'' named Malmord, as well as NPCs Gar & Dion, the "Piratians" (which itself may simply be a Subrosian-missing-the-point of a name), and their Cap'n. Stallord is also a hangup to me for clearly not being human, so it would make sense IMO to leave it on the same level as Stalkoblin, which I also do not consider a direct variant (though I consider Stalblind a Stalfos due to at least being sapient and presumably having been human(ish) at some point if his backstory at all relates to the original Blind's, though I'm digressing hard here). Have any thoughts of these? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:45, April 12, 2021 (MDT)
== Famicom-era Zelda mangas ==
Do you know if the two sets of mangas covering the two Fami-Com Zelda games (for a total of four mangas) published in "OnePack Comics" are official merchandise? Two of them seem to double as strategy guides by giving items, locations, and enemies bios throughout, though the fact that there's an actual story with Rumiko Takahashi-esque art (similar to what the Cagiva mangas did) seems to indicate its officialness above, say, the Million Publishing guide (the other has a kinda weird looking Link with a face a little too big for his head, and tends toward doing its own thing with the story). Additionally, the guidelike one gives separate sections for Fire Bago-Bago and Jermafenser II and has actual on-model solo art for the non-boss Great Palace enemies (those and Volvagia being the only ones really without due to how the final volume handled bosses). Note that the guide ones seem to have multiple authors, while the others are a work of a Ran Maru.
Anyways, I found all of these on archive.org:
*[https://archive.org/details/zelda_manga_loz_susumu_kobayashi/mode/2up ''The Hyrule Fantasy'' manga-guide]
*[https://archive.org/details/zelda_manga_aol_1_wan ''Link no Bōken'' manga-guide part 1], [https://archive.org/details/zelda_manga_aol_2_wan 2], [https://archive.org/details/zelda_manga_aol_3_wan 3]
*[https://archive.org/details/zelda_manga_ranmaru_1_loz ''The Hyrule Fantasy'' Ran Maru manga]
*[https://archive.org/details/zelda_manga_ranmaru_2_aol_vol1 ''Link no Bōken'' Ran Maru manga part 1], [https://archive.org/details/zelda_manga_ranmaru_3_aol_vol2 2], [https://archive.org/details/zelda_manga_ranmaru_4_aol_vol3 3]
I do see "(c) Nintendo" on the covers, but bearing in mind what Mister Wu said I wanted to be cautious. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 06:10, January 3, 2022 (UTC)
== Twilight Dark World ==
As I finally replaced my damaged nunchuck, I am starting a replay of TP anew (meaning activity here will probably increase from the nothing it has been). Right offhand, I notice highlighted references to Twilit Hyrule as a "'''world of shadows'''," "'''dark realm'''," "'''realm of shadows'''," etc. I recall HE and ZE listing TP as an appearance of the Dark World (akin to it sometimes being the "Evil Realm" or "Dark Realm"), so I was wondering if the Japanese script just called it the dark world instead of playing coy with syntax like the English one does. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:54, February 13, 2023 (UTC)
== Zol name meaning ==
Been meaning to ask this for a while. A jRPG I like, ''Phantasy Star IV'', has a slime enemy called [https://youtu.be/DZelfpM9Y90?t=7645 Zol Slug], which, when there are exactly two, fuse together into a giant "Meta Slug." Do you know if [[Zol]] has any actual meaning that would connect this to the extremely similar ''Zelda'' enemy? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:18, February 21, 2023 (UTC)

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