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Also, is it coincidental that Zelda Encyclopedia has a dark blue cover? It's too obvious for me to consider it a coincidence. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 00:24, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Also, is it coincidental that Zelda Encyclopedia has a dark blue cover? It's too obvious for me to consider it a coincidence. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 00:24, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
:I touched on some of this [[#Encyclopedia oddities|here]] and elsewhere, but I also want to add that their rationale for "Odolwa's Insect Minions" is either hilariously disingenuous or just plain incompetent. Here is the sentence in question, from page 45 of ''The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask'' Player's Guide: "''If you keep scoring hits, he’ll eventually send out '''his insect minions''' to harass you, then drop rocks from the ceiling.''" In other words, it was just an off-the-cuff description that the writer made for both insect types that a wiki editor morphed into a name for one of them, which would be evident if they were transparent enough to quote it properly. In fact, this can be seen on the [https://archive.org/details/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMaskNintendoPowerOfficialStrategyGuide/page/n45 Internet Archive] by anyone, so it frankly comes across as false gatekeeping or damage control. I do have other suspicions (like how ''Art & Artifacts'' labels the witch from ''A Link to the Past'' "Syrup" on page 388 despite only having that name in the ''Oracle'' games and ''The Minish Cap''), but if they really intend to double down then we may have to make getting a Japanese copy a priority. Not to mention, the treatment of the Japanese ''Zelda II'' names in ''Art & Artifacts'' is eerily similar to how ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia'' handled ''Super Mario Land 2'' (i.e. ripping romanized article titles sans macrons). The ''Encyclopedia'' cover connection is perhaps a bit too conspiratorial but there is at least some strange defense at play. [[User:LTL|LTL]] ([[User talk:LTL|talk]]) 00:59, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
:I touched on some of this [[#Encyclopedia oddities|here]] and elsewhere, but I also want to add that their rationale for "Odolwa's Insect Minions" is either hilariously disingenuous or just plain incompetent. Here is the sentence in question, from page 45 of ''The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask'' Player's Guide: "''If you keep scoring hits, he’ll eventually send out '''his insect minions''' to harass you, then drop rocks from the ceiling.''" In other words, it was just an off-the-cuff description that the writer made for both insect types that a wiki editor morphed into a name for one of them, which would be evident if they were transparent enough to quote it properly. In fact, this can be seen on the [https://archive.org/details/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMaskNintendoPowerOfficialStrategyGuide/page/n45 Internet Archive] by anyone, so it frankly comes across as false gatekeeping or damage control. I do have other suspicions (like how ''Art & Artifacts'' labels the witch from ''A Link to the Past'' "Syrup" on page 388 despite only having that name in the ''Oracle'' games and ''The Minish Cap''), but if they really intend to double down then we may have to make getting a Japanese copy a priority. Not to mention, the treatment of the Japanese ''Zelda II'' names in ''Arts & Artifacts'' is eerily similar to how ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia'' handled ''Super Mario Land 2'' (i.e. ripping romanized article titles sans macrons). The ''Encyclopedia'' cover connection is perhaps a bit too conspiratorial but there is at least some strange defense at play. [[User:LTL|LTL]] ([[User talk:LTL|talk]]) 00:59, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
::Based on all this evidence, we can safely confirm that the Goddess Trilogy cited from fan wikis? [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 01:28, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
::Based on all this evidence, we can safely confirm that the Goddess Trilogy cited from fan wikis? [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 01:28, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
:::I believe ''Hyrule Historia'' itself is fine, but its follow-ups have massive red flags. [[User:LTL|LTL]] ([[User talk:LTL|talk]]) 01:45, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
:::I believe ''Hyrule Historia'' itself is fine, but its follow-ups have massive red flags. [[User:LTL|LTL]] ([[User talk:LTL|talk]]) 01:45, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
::::Another problem I immediately noticed with them claiming that Miyamoto and Aonuma being involved is that Miyamoto was not involved in any of the three books but Aonuma was involved with ''Hyrule Historia'' (which you believe is the one that is fine). [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 01:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
::::Another problem I immediately noticed with them claiming that Miyamoto and Aonuma being involved is that Miyamoto was not involved in any of the three books but Aonuma was involved with ''Hyrule Historia'' (which you believe is the one that is fine). [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 01:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::I almost forgot about that. Something else I find interesting is that two of the translators in ''Art & Artifacts'' also worked on ''Hyrule Historia'' - one of whom is [https://www.glitterberri.com/hyrule-historia/ GlitterBerri] (I generally find her translations trustworthy but now I can't help wondering which parts of ''Art & Artifacts'' she was responsible for). [[User:LTL|LTL]] ([[User talk:LTL|talk]]) 02:59, 3 December 2019 (UTC)


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