| Latest revision |
Your text |
| Line 40: |
Line 40: |
| Are you & others (specifically Metalex123) going to protect my founding vision for it and make sure that it does not affiliate with NIWA (I'm talking about GWN specifically, not Triforce Wiki, which NIWA doesn't appear to want regardless)? Hopefully tacopill can still bring up important news that could affect me as an editor. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 21:06, March 12, 2022 (UTC) | | Are you & others (specifically Metalex123) going to protect my founding vision for it and make sure that it does not affiliate with NIWA (I'm talking about GWN specifically, not Triforce Wiki, which NIWA doesn't appear to want regardless)? Hopefully tacopill can still bring up important news that could affect me as an editor. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 21:06, March 12, 2022 (UTC) |
| :Thank you for sticking up for me there. You didn't have to, especially because I don't deserve it after how I acted. I think the thing I was the most angry about was not my forced demotion but rather the concern that it was being enforced from the top-down rather than allowing the communities decide. So like I believe it's fair if it's a combo of both, but I don't the top-down enforcement to override what the community desires, especially because people within my own circles raised the concerns about me. I was told that Grifkuba always sides with the community rather than one person, and I hope they stick to that commitment. I actually ended up agreeing with the demotions because I'm part of the community here & GWN. :) [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 05:22, March 13, 2022 (UTC) | | :Thank you for sticking up for me there. You didn't have to, especially because I don't deserve it after how I acted. I think the thing I was the most angry about was not my forced demotion but rather the concern that it was being enforced from the top-down rather than allowing the communities decide. So like I believe it's fair if it's a combo of both, but I don't the top-down enforcement to override what the community desires, especially because people within my own circles raised the concerns about me. I was told that Grifkuba always sides with the community rather than one person, and I hope they stick to that commitment. I actually ended up agreeing with the demotions because I'm part of the community here & GWN. :) [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 05:22, March 13, 2022 (UTC) |
| ::You still prolly oughta apologize for the initial outburst, particularly in regards to, ''ahem'', language. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 08:32, March 13, 2022 (UTC)
| |
|
| |
| == Screencaps ==
| |
|
| |
| Okay so my friend was kind enough to share with me the different vids and screenshots that he's taken on his Switch throughout the months. The ''Zelda''-related ones include ''Breath of the Wild'', ''Hyrule Warriors'', and ''Age of Calamity''. Here's an [[:File:HW Fierce Deity Link defeating Link.jpg|example]] of a screenshot that I managed to retrieve. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 12:37, March 13, 2022 (UTC)
| |
|
| |
| ==Congrats==
| |
| This is Results May Vary (using a proxy). I have heard about "Zeldapedia" becoming independent & came to say congrats (I asked tacopill to relay my personal congrats to Caleb as well bcuz I was friends with him for a while). Keep in mind that I do not plan on rejoining Discord nor do I want to continue editing here (if I were unbanned) or other GWN wikis. And I feel right at home where I'm currently at -- I never thought I'd be so satisfied with where I currently am at.
| |
|
| |
| If ever there were discussion of closing this wiki, it could possibly join elsewhere (I don't want to say with me because then I'd sound like a shill & I'd prefer to not have "unwanted traffic" near the environment where I work at -- perhaps if you reaaaaaaally wanted -- though I do fear subversive intent).
| |
|
| |
| Seeing [https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals#Remove_external_links_to_Zelda_Dungeon_Wiki_and_Triforce_Wiki this proposal] is what had me thinking that the existence of this wiki is possibly endangered, and the subject of alternative wikis is very likely to become a debate amongst related circles. You're in an environment where a lot of people do not like alternative wikis, and they are anti-competitive.
| |
|
| |
| I took responsibility nearly 3 1/2 years ago when creating this wiki, was demonized by inner circles & eventually thrown outta there, and now this happens & I'm a footnote of history? People suck.
| |
|
| |
| And yes I strongly regret I was so mean to the person from spring (even tho I don't get along personally) & I hope they're doing ok (it would be unfair to post name, so I'm not doing that). You don't have to unban me, but when I left Discord (when ppl didn't believe that I'd change) that was my best way of proving a difference. [[Special:Contributions/104.216.12.242|104.216.12.242]] 11:01, October 20, 2022 (UTC)
| |
|
| |
| == Proxy: The Sequel ==
| |
|
| |
| Hello, this is Results May Vary using a proxy yet again to send you a message. (Feel free to unban me & mark me as retired because I'm not going to be doing anything here anymore aside from possibly message.)
| |
|
| |
| We have all had major disagreements on stuff, but one huge thing we did agree on is connections between ''Mario'' and ''Zelda''... to an extent.
| |
|
| |
| I have an entire framework laid out, as such (but one could say this is my headcanon, but aaaanyway): ''Donkey Kong'' is the parent franchise, ''Mario'' is the spinoff, and ''Yoshi'' and ''Wario'' are the ''Mario'' spinoffs. ''The Legend of Zelda'' and ''Super Smash Bros.'' are "related" because the latter has excessive ''Mario'' representation and I could list several things with the former but the fact is that Cheep Cheeps are both ''Mario'' and ''Zelda'' enemies. Sound weird that they're enemies in two franchises? No actually, there's a third one: ''Yoshi'' franchise.
| |
|
| |
| ''The Legend of Zelda'' has ''Mario'' enemies to varying degrees, though not to a ''Yoshi'' level. ''Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3'', the first ''Wario'' game, has its own unique Thwomp variation, [[mariowiki:Pouncer|Pouncer]], just as some of the ''Zelda'' handheld games have [[mariowiki:Mega Thwomp|Mega Thwomp]] exclusively. I'd advise one to consider the scope of wikis to cover "related franchises" as well.
| |
|
| |
| I still look at the ins and outs of the wiki for a living. I live in the WhosOnline. I saw a [[mariowiki:Talk:Mega Thwomp|talk page]] on Mega Thwomp (I promise it was not me who started it, I'm still exhausted saving all the SSB content from there).
| |
|
| |
| How is it my business? I don't think it's directly my business, but LTL linked a proposal that I did when I asked for more ''Zelda'' coverage. You mentioned how ZW doesn't cover Octolot, Chuckorok, Octoomba, and Rocto. I laid out my franchise hierarchy above, so I think there's two options:
| |
|
| |
| *If SMW doesn't cover the ''Zelda'' enemies, neither should Triforce Wiki on the Octorok variants exclusive to ''Mario''.
| |
| *If SMW does cover the ''Zelda'' enemies, this wiki could cover the ''Mario'' enemies.
| |
| *Triforce Wiki rekindles its 2019 roots of proud gamer rebellion and covers all ''Mario'' enemy variants of ''Zelda'' enemies, even if SMW does not.
| |
|
| |
| Literally the same situation. But if you don't want to end up like how I did, option 1 is your safe bet.
| |
|
| |
| ''Mario'' and ''Zelda'' have the same rights holder, Nintendo, and it literally mentions they have been developed concurrently. <s>Chain Chomps</s> Fire Bars were originally purposed for ''Zelda'' before becoming ''Mario''. If anything, I want ''Donkey Kong'' back into its own wiki and ''Zelda'' as the substitute fourth franchise on a Mario wiki. ''Banjo'' and ''Conker'', which are "related franchises" because of ''Diddy Kong Racing'', I could never find a source for B-K/Conker's inclusion for "familiarization" purposes.
| |
|
| |
| People will ask, "what about ''Mario + Rabbids'' or ''Mario & Sonic''"? Those are dedicated crossover series. Neither fully ''Mario''/''Rabbids'' nor ''Mario''/''Sonic''. ''Super Smash Bros.'' is also a crossover series, it's just got representation for like 100+ games. ''Itadaki''/''Fortune Street'' is also half ''Mario''. Why aren't we isolating that to just ''Mario'' side of things? What if ''Super Smash Bros.'' for Nintendo 64 had around 50% of its subjects from the ''Mario'' franchise. Would the same standards apply to it as well? I digress, however.
| |
|
| |
| So how it goes is: ''Zelda'' and ''Super Smash Bros.'' bonus coverage on a Mario wiki, ''Banjo'' and ''Conker'' on a Donkey Kong wiki. Now if you want how I'd personally feel, if I ran a ''Zelda'' wiki I'd cover the '''entire''' ''Super Mario'' mainline series on it due to the concurrent nature of the two series (The Legend of Zelda series, not to be confused with The Legend of Zelda franchise). Because I have right to free opinion, I'm just expressing mine at the moment: wikis do not have to only cover their main subject or franchise, there can be '''bonus''' coverage on "related franchises." There are three tiers of franchises in relevance: spinoffs, related, and other; the former two would fit on a wiki together.
| |
|
| |
| ''Super Mario'' franchise is not the future: ''Mario'' and ''Zelda'' is as well as ''Donkey Kong'' with ''Banjo'' and ''Conker''. I don't play by industry-safe rules designed to cage us.
| |
|
| |
| Sincerely, [[Special:Contributions/108.181.21.229|108.181.21.229]] 17:21, August 14, 2023 (UTC) (aka Results May Vary, the '''real''' GWN founder)
| |
| :I plan on covering the MariOctos. Please leave this alone, guy. You know fully well why I let you go: you proved that there's no point in trusting you, because you'll ultimately always be [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Doc_von_Schmeltwick/Archive_2&diff=2474842&oldid=2472439 this guy], and all "growth" from you is smoke and mirrors. I really wish it didn't have to come to that, but you were far too much of a liability. Do you know how much of your influence I have (and this site, ie my own pet project, has) had to live down, thanks to all your insane rants, temper tantrums, and pointlessly belligerent actions that would make even Benito Mussolini facepalm? Quite a bit. I may have been the last bridge you truly burned, but even my forgiveness has limits; I think we've been through Jehoshua's recommended 490 by now, and I still cannot trust your supposed goodwill for how you always yank it back. I've tried to simply ignore you, but since you insist on updating anyway, I guess I'll need to say it outright: please go away. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:38, August 14, 2023 (UTC)
| |
|
| |
| ::Okay then. If that is what you wish, I will say no more. (p.s. I made an error it was Firebars intended for Zelda originally, so I changed accordingly) [[Special:Contributions/108.181.32.61|108.181.32.61]] 02:08, August 15, 2023 (UTC)
| |
| :::Adieu. Fare thee well. Again, I wish it didn't need to come to this, but you've forced my hand. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 05:16, August 15, 2023 (UTC)
| |
Click here to log in
