User talk:Results May Vary

Forking

So how much forking has been done for this site currently in comparison to how much is planned? I'd like to create a bunch of just-above stub articles for the main recurring enemies so thy can be filled in more conveniently, but don't want to interfere with that. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:36, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

What do you mean by that? I moved the content off zelda.shoutwiki.com entirely. The whole site is off, and all the content not from hylian pi on zelda archive is preserved here. He gave me the pages and images to preserve here Results May Vary (talk) 01:43, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

I meant like the enemy pages that were on ZeldaArchive, mostly. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:45, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Zora

I think that Zoras probably should all be on one page, since the ones in OoT are based off the previous ones (just always friendly not usually ugly) and LBW has an extra-large amount of friendly versions of the Gillman-like ones. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:36, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Patra

Although NIWA Zeldawiki always called it a boss, in action, I don't see why it should be ranked any higher than Lanmola in that regard. I mean, they often appear multiple in a room, they don't seem to act as a boss like Dodongo does (which is degraded to generic more-than-one-in-room enemy later), and I don't think they ever roar (though I could be wrong there). They seem like just an enemy that has rather sophisticated behavior. Admittedly, "Eyesoar" (which is the same thing) in Oracle of Ages is a boss, but that's a different game. Note that "Patra" should still get name priority due to being from a manual. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:05, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me -- if you see any mistakes, I strongly encourage you to correct them--that's the whole point of wiki: properly cited facts and infromation. I'm actually counting on you to help me with name sources, since the Zelda naming is such a mess; i'm just trying to put all the names and sprites together on the Zelda 1, which has been taking me 1-2 days already to finish up. An example of a naming confusion is that Rocks is the name from in the Zelda 1 manual but they're listed under the Boulder page on NIWA Zelda Wiki Results May Vary (talk) 22:12, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Pretty sure "boulder" has been used in the same context in a game since then. Either way, they're both generic names. If LTL gets involved, he should be more helpful in that regard, since he has actual guidebooks (the only guidebooks I own are the inconsistent Dark Horse ones and the Tri-Force Heroes guide) and knows a significantly higher level of Japanese than I do. From what I can tell, the only Dark Horse-translated guidebook that didn't blatantly take from the various wikis (and the hilariously unreliable Zelda.com) was the first, Hyrule Historia, and it probably did less-obvious amount of that regardless. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:23, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Does Zelda have any other Super Mario Encyclopedia-type equivalents where they take names from wikis, causing citogenesis? Results May Vary (talk) 22:27, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Also i told LinkTheLefty about this place--he didn't seem interested. Results May Vary (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

The only ones I know are Arts & Artifacts and Zelda Encyclopedia. The latter most laughably blatant, rivaling SMBE. I legitimately wonder if ZD worked on that as well. Also yay, first edit conflict of the new wiki. :P Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:35, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Weee. Also regarding LTL and Doom, I think some editors would probably only join when there's more content for them to work with, or if the wiki proves its durability Results May Vary (talk) 22:38, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Re:Since when was naming Canon?

Exactly. They act as if things can only have one "true" name. You know, despite synonyms and language/term evolution being a thing in both real life and fiction. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:50, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Note for when creating the species infobox

I'd mostly like it to be like the MarioWiki one. However, due to problems we've had regarding how relations between entities work, I'd say the relation parameters should be "variants" (for what is a subtype of another), "parent entity" or "variant of" (for the opposite), "relatives" (for what is clearly in the same group, but lacks as cohesive a relation as the previous two), and "comparable" (for ones that, while not clearly related, are still close enough to be linked to). Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good, do you want to create it now or should i do it? Also thank you for helping fill in the blanks on the Legend of Zelda page -- you've already been a big help :) Results May Vary (talk) 01:54, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Well I mean if I did it I'd just be nicking the source code off of MarioWiki, and I haven't got whatever permission I need to do that as far as I can tell....also you're welcome, it's nice to have something to do that isn't the somewhat stressful preparation for final exams. (At the very least, only two of my classes actually have those this semester...) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:01, 3 May 2019 (UTC)